Worcestershire County Council workers suspended on full pay costs £230,000

Bromsgrove Advertiser: Council workers suspended on full pay costs £230,000 Council workers suspended on full pay costs £230,000

WORKERS being suspended on full pay has left taxpayers with a bill for £230,000, it has emerged.

A total of 45 workers at Worcestershire County Council have been suspended on full pay since 2011, with some being absent for more than 12 months.

The county council has opted to keep the reasons for the staff suspensions secret, although cases could include situations which involve allegations of misconduct, or police matters, which would require the employee to be suspended while investigations are carried out.

Of the 45, a total of 31 workers returned to their jobs in the end, with 12 of them being sacked and two having resigned.

In the 2011/12 financial year, 18 staff were suspended, costing £95,357, and in 2012/13, 15 employees were forced to stay off, costing £95,346.

Figures for the first nine months of 2013/14, from April to December, reveal 12 suspensions so far, resulting in a bill for £39,637.

Three suspensions lasted more than a year, while two lasted over nine months and another seven took more than seven months to conclude.

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A total of 23 took more than a month to sort out, and the other 10 carried on for less than four weeks, resulting in a total bill of £230,340.

Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”.

“In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said. 

“But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay.

“We need to know why this is such a big problem in Worcestershire and more importantly to learn the lessons to prevent us from doing this again.

“We want to pay people to work hard for Worcestershire residents, not to stay at home watching daytime television.”

But the council’s Conservative leadership has defended the suspensions, saying it is a tiny proportion of the 5,000 employees at the county council and that under employment law, those suspended are entitled to full pay.

Councillor John Campion, the cabinet member for transformation and commissioning, said: “I’m surprised the leader of the Labour group would make light of such a serious and important issue.

“The council does not accept there are a large number of employees being paid to stay away from work.

“With a workforce of over 5,000, on average, we have under 20 suspensions per year.”

Robert Oxley, campaign director of the Taxpayers' Alliance said: “This is a staggering amount to pay to suspended staff stuck on gardening leave for months on end.

“It isn't fair on taxpayers or the staff involved for the cases to be allowed to drag on for such lengthy periods.

“Ensuring decisions about suspended employees are made swiftly and fairly is vital to ensure taxpayers’ money isn’t squandered paying council staff with their feet up.”

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8:01am Mon 13 Jan 14

saucerer says...

This is totally scandalous on so many levels. We have had 45 members of staff suspended since 2011 which is a lot and to me suggests that the quality, attitude and competence of staff employed by the council is questionable and more or less sums up many people's view about the type of people who work at County Hall.

Were this the private sector that number would be minimal, because of the superior quality and ethic of employees compared to those at the council, while many would simply have been shown the door on minimal or no pay rather than being kept on the payroll. For these council staff to be kept on full pay to stay at home and do nothing (which is what I suspect most council workers do generally anyway) is abhorrent.

I also think the tax payers of Worcestershire have a right to know who these people suspended are and the reasons, especially if the welfare and security of residents benefiting from council services could be compromised or the quality of council services.
This is totally scandalous on so many levels. We have had 45 members of staff suspended since 2011 which is a lot and to me suggests that the quality, attitude and competence of staff employed by the council is questionable and more or less sums up many people's view about the type of people who work at County Hall. Were this the private sector that number would be minimal, because of the superior quality and ethic of employees compared to those at the council, while many would simply have been shown the door on minimal or no pay rather than being kept on the payroll. For these council staff to be kept on full pay to stay at home and do nothing (which is what I suspect most council workers do generally anyway) is abhorrent. I also think the tax payers of Worcestershire have a right to know who these people suspended are and the reasons, especially if the welfare and security of residents benefiting from council services could be compromised or the quality of council services. saucerer
  • Score: -16

8:11am Mon 13 Jan 14

Redhillman says...

I would like to know why the number of suspensions is so high even with over a 1000 staff employed, the reasons why these people have been suspended and why they have remained on full pay while clearly not working? This is just another example of the council being totally out of touch with common sense and reality, while this article suggests that the quality of people employed by Worcestershire county council is very poor and wouldn't even pass muster in many private companies. Where I work, which has well over 500 employees, I'm not even aware of one person being suspended over the same period.

So, another year and the council's attitude towards the tax payer, quality of staff, ethics and standards of service provision remains unchanged. Again.
I would like to know why the number of suspensions is so high even with over a 1000 staff employed, the reasons why these people have been suspended and why they have remained on full pay while clearly not working? This is just another example of the council being totally out of touch with common sense and reality, while this article suggests that the quality of people employed by Worcestershire county council is very poor and wouldn't even pass muster in many private companies. Where I work, which has well over 500 employees, I'm not even aware of one person being suspended over the same period. So, another year and the council's attitude towards the tax payer, quality of staff, ethics and standards of service provision remains unchanged. Again. Redhillman
  • Score: -12

8:13am Mon 13 Jan 14

Redhillman says...

Knowing their track record of incompetence and a knack of not being entirely open or truthful, I wonder if the majority of these suspended staff worked in the highways department?!
Knowing their track record of incompetence and a knack of not being entirely open or truthful, I wonder if the majority of these suspended staff worked in the highways department?! Redhillman
  • Score: -14

8:22am Mon 13 Jan 14

mauro balbino says...

I consider it a shame that we taxpayers have to suffer further bleeding from our pockets, but I also acknowledge that's no absurdity if the County Council acts in compliance with the rules and, where serious allegations were made, it can not punish unless proved guilty and the better option is a temporary one: disallow staff to work whilst under investigation/suspic
ion.

But when Councillor Peter McDonald says:

“No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay."

He is making a judgement about preferences, education, skills.

I am not expecting him to say "watching Sir Richard Attenborough" or "listening to BBC Radio 4 Extra" or, even, "studying and improving skills"; what would be a fair enough thing to do if you are in risk of loosing your job in the near future.

But implying lack of quality or willingness for improvement or assuming an average of certain standards is just not fair even if the reasons for suspension were not kept secret.
I consider it a shame that we taxpayers have to suffer further bleeding from our pockets, but I also acknowledge that's no absurdity if the County Council acts in compliance with the rules and, where serious allegations were made, it can not punish unless proved guilty and the better option is a temporary one: disallow staff to work whilst under investigation/suspic ion. But when Councillor Peter McDonald says: “No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay." He is making a judgement about preferences, education, skills. I am not expecting him to say "watching Sir Richard Attenborough" or "listening to BBC Radio 4 Extra" or, even, "studying and improving skills"; what would be a fair enough thing to do if you are in risk of loosing your job in the near future. But implying lack of quality or willingness for improvement or assuming an average of certain standards is just not fair even if the reasons for suspension were not kept secret. mauro balbino
  • Score: 25

8:31am Mon 13 Jan 14

green49 says...

This report and claim by
Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”.

“In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said.

“But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay.

WHAT a statement to make, the voice of an idiot.

Its LIES mainly yes there have been suspensions in some cases, one for instance that i know of was a teacher was suspended from a complait by a pupil who later admitted they had lied, and its easy to accuse someone but to back it up with the truth is why 90% of these so called incidents are proved wrong but the WCC has to go through a legal process, as usual the bashers are on here with NO evidence,
Dont believe what you read especially in this newspaper.

Mr Mcdonald issued this almost 2 weeks ago, IMO he just wanted some headlines as when he has been asked to submit his proof he has not responded.
Another WN item just being sensationalised,

NO i am not an employee of the WCC but i do work with them.
This report and claim by Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”. “In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said. “But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay. WHAT a statement to make, the voice of an idiot. Its LIES mainly yes there have been suspensions in some cases, one for instance that i know of was a teacher was suspended from a complait by a pupil who later admitted they had lied, and its easy to accuse someone but to back it up with the truth is why 90% of these so called incidents are proved wrong but the WCC has to go through a legal process, as usual the bashers are on here with NO evidence, Dont believe what you read especially in this newspaper. Mr Mcdonald issued this almost 2 weeks ago, IMO he just wanted some headlines as when he has been asked to submit his proof he has not responded. Another WN item just being sensationalised, NO i am not an employee of the WCC but i do work with them. green49
  • Score: 26

8:37am Mon 13 Jan 14

mauro balbino says...

Good morning, Green49.

I am not an employee of the WCC and I do not work with them, but I can see the reasonableness of your opinion and how Mr McDonald could easily be considered to oppose only for the sake of opposing.
Good morning, Green49. I am not an employee of the WCC and I do not work with them, but I can see the reasonableness of your opinion and how Mr McDonald could easily be considered to oppose only for the sake of opposing. mauro balbino
  • Score: 13

8:49am Mon 13 Jan 14

green49 says...

The whole thing is just not right, i know lots of people who work at WCC and i mean work, they have almost no knowledge of anyone being suspened, as with most Private and Public sectors if a complaint is made against someone thats considered serious (and i mainly think the WCC go over the top with suspension,) Then the matter has to be looked at properly, as i said there are a lot of assumptions made on here by the bashers of WCC who have very little if any actual knowledge of what they are commenting on.

I think they just have some sort of ingrained mental attitude to council workers.
The whole thing is just not right, i know lots of people who work at WCC and i mean work, they have almost no knowledge of anyone being suspened, as with most Private and Public sectors if a complaint is made against someone thats considered serious (and i mainly think the WCC go over the top with suspension,) Then the matter has to be looked at properly, as i said there are a lot of assumptions made on here by the bashers of WCC who have very little if any actual knowledge of what they are commenting on. I think they just have some sort of ingrained mental attitude to council workers. green49
  • Score: 27

9:00am Mon 13 Jan 14

Fishy says...

31 of the 45 were re-instated which suggests to me that they were not found to have done anything seriously wrong. Being suspended and worrying about the outcome of enquiries etc must have been unpleasant enough without losing pay too.

What if they had been sacked without the matter being fully investigated? Imagine the cost to the tax payer if they had taken the matter to a tribunal and found to be unfairly dismissed!
31 of the 45 were re-instated which suggests to me that they were not found to have done anything seriously wrong. Being suspended and worrying about the outcome of enquiries etc must have been unpleasant enough without losing pay too. What if they had been sacked without the matter being fully investigated? Imagine the cost to the tax payer if they had taken the matter to a tribunal and found to be unfairly dismissed! Fishy
  • Score: 32

9:12am Mon 13 Jan 14

Vox Rationis says...

Once again, the Worcester Daily Mail - I mean News - goes fishing with some tasty bait, and once again the same council-bashing faces pop up to snatch at it.
Once again, the Worcester Daily Mail - I mean News - goes fishing with some tasty bait, and once again the same council-bashing faces pop up to snatch at it. Vox Rationis
  • Score: 25

9:15am Mon 13 Jan 14

skychip says...

When I worked at the County Council I knew at 6 least employees who were suspended on full pay for 12 months and in fact they did leave after that.
When I worked at the County Council I knew at 6 least employees who were suspended on full pay for 12 months and in fact they did leave after that. skychip
  • Score: -1

9:30am Mon 13 Jan 14

Lizzie R says...

Redhillman wrote:
I would like to know why the number of suspensions is so high even with over a 1000 staff employed, the reasons why these people have been suspended and why they have remained on full pay while clearly not working? This is just another example of the council being totally out of touch with common sense and reality, while this article suggests that the quality of people employed by Worcestershire county council is very poor and wouldn't even pass muster in many private companies. Where I work, which has well over 500 employees, I'm not even aware of one person being suspended over the same period.

So, another year and the council's attitude towards the tax payer, quality of staff, ethics and standards of service provision remains unchanged. Again.
Another year and another story from the Worcester News designed to instigate anti-council comments and hatred towards council workers.

What is your real motive Worcester News? Why are you so intent in publishing such stories which puts the council in a bad light all the time? What have they done to you? Are you really a bunch of Tories who want to see the council abolished and for all services to be privatised?

You very rarely publish a good news story about the council, while the good stuff they do far outweigh the things that go wrong, which are tiny in comparison. Come on Worcester News, do tell, spill the beans.
[quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: I would like to know why the number of suspensions is so high even with over a 1000 staff employed, the reasons why these people have been suspended and why they have remained on full pay while clearly not working? This is just another example of the council being totally out of touch with common sense and reality, while this article suggests that the quality of people employed by Worcestershire county council is very poor and wouldn't even pass muster in many private companies. Where I work, which has well over 500 employees, I'm not even aware of one person being suspended over the same period. So, another year and the council's attitude towards the tax payer, quality of staff, ethics and standards of service provision remains unchanged. Again.[/p][/quote]Another year and another story from the Worcester News designed to instigate anti-council comments and hatred towards council workers. What is your real motive Worcester News? Why are you so intent in publishing such stories which puts the council in a bad light all the time? What have they done to you? Are you really a bunch of Tories who want to see the council abolished and for all services to be privatised? You very rarely publish a good news story about the council, while the good stuff they do far outweigh the things that go wrong, which are tiny in comparison. Come on Worcester News, do tell, spill the beans. Lizzie R
  • Score: 28

9:57am Mon 13 Jan 14

F1 Dave says...

Whoever put this out could well be trying to move the focus from Worcestershire County Council washing their hands of your schools.
The outsourcing of our Children’s Education is a much bigger scandal. This Leadership at Worcestershire County Council and Mr Gove will never be able to fix what they are trying to do right now.
This will be put to full council very soon!!

plus
Councillor John Campion, the cabinet member for transformation and commissioning, needs to get his facts right on staff numbers. there are only just over 4000 left and when the leadership has finished 2300 will be left.
Yep the 2300 left will be pen pushers putting the work out at a much higher cost than now.
Whoever put this out could well be trying to move the focus from Worcestershire County Council washing their hands of your schools. The outsourcing of our Children’s Education is a much bigger scandal. This Leadership at Worcestershire County Council and Mr Gove will never be able to fix what they are trying to do right now. This will be put to full council very soon!! plus Councillor John Campion, the cabinet member for transformation and commissioning, needs to get his facts right on staff numbers. there are only just over 4000 left and when the leadership has finished 2300 will be left. Yep the 2300 left will be pen pushers putting the work out at a much higher cost than now. F1 Dave
  • Score: 3

9:58am Mon 13 Jan 14

skychip says...

I feel people have a right to know where the taxpayers money is going, it is not a question of being anti Council.
I feel people have a right to know where the taxpayers money is going, it is not a question of being anti Council. skychip
  • Score: -3

12:00pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Vox Rationis says...

Nice to see McDonald has been learning from those charm school classes since telling a fellow councillor to kill themselves.

What a nice man.
Nice to see McDonald has been learning from those charm school classes since telling a fellow councillor to kill themselves. What a nice man. Vox Rationis
  • Score: 14

12:31pm Mon 13 Jan 14

lilboo says...

Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”.

“In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said.

“But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay.

Goodness me doesn't Mr McDonald hold the staff in such high esteem?? What an utterly disgusting, judgemental waste of time, space and money he is - oh sorry was that being too judgemental Councillor??

I think it will be contractual that WCC employees are suspended on full pay, as are many employment contracts. However it should fall to the HR Management procedures as to why this pay is paid out for inordinate amounts of time whilst 'investigations' are carried out.
Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”. “In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said. “But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay. Goodness me doesn't Mr McDonald hold the staff in such high esteem?? What an utterly disgusting, judgemental waste of time, space and money he is - oh sorry was that being too judgemental Councillor?? I think it will be contractual that WCC employees are suspended on full pay, as are many employment contracts. However it should fall to the HR Management procedures as to why this pay is paid out for inordinate amounts of time whilst 'investigations' are carried out. lilboo
  • Score: 9

12:40pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

I have read and heard Coun Peter McDonald speaking and he certainly is very basic, and frequently what he says has no bearing to the debate, just like his comments over staff absentees. Perhaps He should listen a little more to Coun Amos who is well read as we say. So Peter get it right or say less.
I have read and heard Coun Peter McDonald speaking and he certainly is very basic, and frequently what he says has no bearing to the debate, just like his comments over staff absentees. Perhaps He should listen a little more to Coun Amos who is well read as we say. So Peter get it right or say less. Jabbadad
  • Score: 3

12:58pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Lizzie R says...

lilboo wrote:
Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”.

“In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said.

“But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay.

Goodness me doesn't Mr McDonald hold the staff in such high esteem?? What an utterly disgusting, judgemental waste of time, space and money he is - oh sorry was that being too judgemental Councillor??

I think it will be contractual that WCC employees are suspended on full pay, as are many employment contracts. However it should fall to the HR Management procedures as to why this pay is paid out for inordinate amounts of time whilst 'investigations' are carried out.
Many councillors are guilty of holding staff with such little esteem and value, while many are just bullies and see council officers as nothing more than their servants, often ready to land an officer in it if they don't get what they want, even if it's wrong. And that's from experience when my daughter use to work at County Hall.
[quote][p][bold]lilboo[/bold] wrote: Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”. “In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said. “But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay. Goodness me doesn't Mr McDonald hold the staff in such high esteem?? What an utterly disgusting, judgemental waste of time, space and money he is - oh sorry was that being too judgemental Councillor?? I think it will be contractual that WCC employees are suspended on full pay, as are many employment contracts. However it should fall to the HR Management procedures as to why this pay is paid out for inordinate amounts of time whilst 'investigations' are carried out.[/p][/quote]Many councillors are guilty of holding staff with such little esteem and value, while many are just bullies and see council officers as nothing more than their servants, often ready to land an officer in it if they don't get what they want, even if it's wrong. And that's from experience when my daughter use to work at County Hall. Lizzie R
  • Score: 15

2:17pm Mon 13 Jan 14

lilboo says...

Lizzie R wrote:
lilboo wrote:
Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”.

“In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said.

“But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay.

Goodness me doesn't Mr McDonald hold the staff in such high esteem?? What an utterly disgusting, judgemental waste of time, space and money he is - oh sorry was that being too judgemental Councillor??

I think it will be contractual that WCC employees are suspended on full pay, as are many employment contracts. However it should fall to the HR Management procedures as to why this pay is paid out for inordinate amounts of time whilst 'investigations' are carried out.
Many councillors are guilty of holding staff with such little esteem and value, while many are just bullies and see council officers as nothing more than their servants, often ready to land an officer in it if they don't get what they want, even if it's wrong. And that's from experience when my daughter use to work at County Hall.
I know Lizzie, my husband was one of the unfortunates too!
[quote][p][bold]Lizzie R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilboo[/bold] wrote: Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of the opposition Labour group, branded the figures “astonishing”. “In certain situations you would expect the odd suspension, like where allegations are made over a social worker it can get quite serious and the right thing would be to ask them to take time off while it’s sorted out,” he said. “But I didn’t expect these figures. No doubt, the viewing figures of Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women have increased because of the large number of staff suspended on full pay. Goodness me doesn't Mr McDonald hold the staff in such high esteem?? What an utterly disgusting, judgemental waste of time, space and money he is - oh sorry was that being too judgemental Councillor?? I think it will be contractual that WCC employees are suspended on full pay, as are many employment contracts. However it should fall to the HR Management procedures as to why this pay is paid out for inordinate amounts of time whilst 'investigations' are carried out.[/p][/quote]Many councillors are guilty of holding staff with such little esteem and value, while many are just bullies and see council officers as nothing more than their servants, often ready to land an officer in it if they don't get what they want, even if it's wrong. And that's from experience when my daughter use to work at County Hall.[/p][/quote]I know Lizzie, my husband was one of the unfortunates too! lilboo
  • Score: 4

4:50pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Landy44 says...

There are two possible conclusions to this story:

1. The WCC staff are inept and poorly performing/behaved.

2. The WCC Management is not skilled at effective staff leadership and management.

I suspect (but I honestly do not know myself), the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Either way, it is a scandal, and the taxpayer does have a right to demand some answers (clearly that should not include reasons for suspensions that are currently in effect).

This is not meant to "bash" WCC employees, but to be a fair and even handed view.

As to WCC itself, I sincerely believe it should let professional commercial third parties and community groups take over the running of most of the services it provides, reduce our taxes and shrink itself as much as possible (ideally to almost nothing).

That should enable better services, jobs for the good WCC employees with employers who value and can manage them effectively, and a massive saving for the tax payer.

QED
There are two possible conclusions to this story: 1. The WCC staff are inept and poorly performing/behaved. 2. The WCC Management is not skilled at effective staff leadership and management. I suspect (but I honestly do not know myself), the truth is somewhere in the middle. Either way, it is a scandal, and the taxpayer does have a right to demand some answers (clearly that should not include reasons for suspensions that are currently in effect). This is not meant to "bash" WCC employees, but to be a fair and even handed view. As to WCC itself, I sincerely believe it should let professional commercial third parties and community groups take over the running of most of the services it provides, reduce our taxes and shrink itself as much as possible (ideally to almost nothing). That should enable better services, jobs for the good WCC employees with employers who value and can manage them effectively, and a massive saving for the tax payer. QED Landy44
  • Score: -13

5:41pm Mon 13 Jan 14

WJS1950 says...

Redhillman wrote:
Knowing their track record of incompetence and a knack of not being entirely open or truthful, I wonder if the majority of these suspended staff worked in the highways department?!
Shame the constant bumbling fools in the highways department that are Messrs Fraser, Fullee, Comerford and Blake aren't suspended when you look at their constant failures.
[quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: Knowing their track record of incompetence and a knack of not being entirely open or truthful, I wonder if the majority of these suspended staff worked in the highways department?![/p][/quote]Shame the constant bumbling fools in the highways department that are Messrs Fraser, Fullee, Comerford and Blake aren't suspended when you look at their constant failures. WJS1950
  • Score: 0

7:13pm Mon 13 Jan 14

green49 says...

It is a private matter if you are suspended, (it needs to be as false accusations are rife against council members just because a council employee is doing there job, as most of them turn out to be false) it may be that what ever has been done is serious enough to warrant suspension but lets not forget mud sticks and when its not true it still causes a problem for the innocent, i know two resigned as they couldnt stand the pressure of being suspended for as it turned out they were 100% innocent.

Lets make the ones who accuse pay the cost of it all for making false accusastions, i am sure that will cut it out,
It is a private matter if you are suspended, (it needs to be as false accusations are rife against council members just because a council employee is doing there job, as most of them turn out to be false) it may be that what ever has been done is serious enough to warrant suspension but lets not forget mud sticks and when its not true it still causes a problem for the innocent, i know two resigned as they couldnt stand the pressure of being suspended for as it turned out they were 100% innocent. Lets make the ones who accuse pay the cost of it all for making false accusastions, i am sure that will cut it out, green49
  • Score: 16

10:44pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Doctor Dave says...

31out of the 43 returned to work, this says to me that 31 false accusations.
What type of people would make false accusations against council workers?
Answer, just look at some of the comments above !
31out of the 43 returned to work, this says to me that 31 false accusations. What type of people would make false accusations against council workers? Answer, just look at some of the comments above ! Doctor Dave
  • Score: 17

7:20am Tue 14 Jan 14

green49 says...

Doctor Dave i agree, its people who have mainly disagreed with some decision thats not gone there way or they have just invented something just as a get back, give them the bill it costs to sort it out that will stop it i think.
Doctor Dave i agree, its people who have mainly disagreed with some decision thats not gone there way or they have just invented something just as a get back, give them the bill it costs to sort it out that will stop it i think. green49
  • Score: 11

9:15am Tue 14 Jan 14

Landy44 says...

Doctor Dave wrote:
31out of the 43 returned to work, this says to me that 31 false accusations.
What type of people would make false accusations against council workers?
Answer, just look at some of the comments above !
Agree in part. It shoulds like 31 people were pretty shabily treated through poor management.

That said 11 people on suspension that didn't return to work for that size of workforce is HUGE! We don't have all the facts - more scrutiny is required at WCC methinks.
[quote][p][bold]Doctor Dave[/bold] wrote: 31out of the 43 returned to work, this says to me that 31 false accusations. What type of people would make false accusations against council workers? Answer, just look at some of the comments above ![/p][/quote]Agree in part. It shoulds like 31 people were pretty shabily treated through poor management. That said 11 people on suspension that didn't return to work for that size of workforce is HUGE! We don't have all the facts - more scrutiny is required at WCC methinks. Landy44
  • Score: -4

2:38pm Tue 14 Jan 14

green49 says...

Landy44, of those 11 people, 2 resigned as they could not cope with the pressure but were in the end 100% totally innocent, as i said on my previous post mud sticks, one complanit was done by a private outsource when the WCC officer was investigating fraud against them, i know more but will not continue, its seems you have some sort of attitude against WCC, i can assure you all the staff i know and have to work with( NO I AM NOT A WCC EMPLOYEE) are some of the best experienced people at the job,
Reading a newspaper article and having actuall facts are two different things, i know the factual side of most of this rubbish thats been posted,
Otherwise i would be in no position to comment, like most on here they do not know the facts.
Landy44, of those 11 people, 2 resigned as they could not cope with the pressure but were in the end 100% totally innocent, as i said on my previous post mud sticks, one complanit was done by a private outsource when the WCC officer was investigating fraud against them, i know more but will not continue, its seems you have some sort of attitude against WCC, i can assure you all the staff i know and have to work with( NO I AM NOT A WCC EMPLOYEE) are some of the best experienced people at the job, Reading a newspaper article and having actuall facts are two different things, i know the factual side of most of this rubbish thats been posted, Otherwise i would be in no position to comment, like most on here they do not know the facts. green49
  • Score: 14

6:27pm Tue 14 Jan 14

DarrenM says...

At least they tell you , if you ask West Mercia Police Farce how many officers have been served notice that they are under investigation, the numbers are presumably so massive that apparently they 1) don't save that information, 2) its too expensive to find it out, and 3) its a state secret.
At least they tell you , if you ask West Mercia Police Farce how many officers have been served notice that they are under investigation, the numbers are presumably so massive that apparently they 1) don't save that information, 2) its too expensive to find it out, and 3) its a state secret. DarrenM
  • Score: 3

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